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Hello everyone I am new to zusi 3 and i have a question about the use of the horn/whistle. I read around the internet about the "p" sign but anytime i finish a timetable i get a "failed to operate whistle ".
How do I have to proceed in order to sound the horn properly.
Ps:sorry for my bad English.
Cheers,
Ivan.

On which trains/what timeteables does this occur?
On some timetables, depending on the timeframe the terrain is set in, you might also have to operate the horn when entering a tunnel (e.g. the module Altenbeken etc. is set like this).
In the olden times, trackmen frequented the rails to inspect them, so it was mandatory tho whistle while going into a tunnel so the could retreat to a safe place.

Also should I sound the horn when entering a tunnel even if there's no "P" sign?
Also I will post the routes later when there's the "P" sign.

On certain routes, yes.

I think there were routes where I drove the br 642 they were diesel routes I.e without overhead network ,only diesel locomotives and dmu.And there were "P" signs for the horn.

Yes, there are such P signs on the Marschbahn route

Hi Ivan,

regardless of route or timetable, the simulator will stop complaining if you simply follow these two rules:

1. Use the whistle at every »P« sign, just before passing it; and
2. use the whistle right before entering a tunnel.

You should press the key for at least two seconds.

It is true that the second rule does not apply to contemporary route modules. But as there are no deductions for unnecessary whistling, I would not bother to find out if the timetable uses route modules that require you to whistle before entering a tunnel or not.

Regards,
Hendrik

Straßenbahnschaffner hat geschrieben: ↑14.02.2024 14:56:47 Hi Ivan,

regardless of route or timetable, the simulator will stop complaining if you simply follow these two rules:

1. Use the whistle at every »P« sign, just before passing it; and
2. use the whistle right before entering a tunnel.

You should press the key for at least two seconds.

It is true that the second rule does not apply to contemporary route modules. But as there are no deductions for unnecessary whistling, I would not bother to find out if the timetable uses route modules that require you to whistle before entering a tunnel or not.

Regards,
Hendrik

Hi hendrik thanks for turning in and also to everyone else who answered me so I can truly enjoy this highly realistic simulator because I am looking for realistic physics not so much HD graphics. I just finished a route which consisted of a 185 loco plus autorack wagons and I received four times the known:"failed to operate a whistle". I tried but I am not gonna give up right now I am gonna drive the 193 with maybe freight wagons. It's one of my favorite locomotives, and I will keep trying to "beat the whistle problem".
Have a fantastic week everyone and see you soon, bye.

Hi Ivan,

there is a pdf document with local directives ("Örtliche Richtlinien Zusi 3") for Zusi 3 routes if applicable. You can find it at:
\Zusi3\_ZusiData\Timetables\Deutschland\Infrastrukturdaten\Zusi_Oeril.pdf

The document is written in German langiage but you can easily translate it using a translator tool.

There you can find information on routes where it is mandatory to use the attention signal Zp 1 before entering a tunnel.
In detail, these are the routes 109 on page 6 and 190 on page 8.

Regards,
Thomas

Ivan Milanov hat geschrieben: ↑14.02.2024 21:53:54 I received four times the known:"failed to operate a whistle". I tried but I am not gonna give up right now I am gonna drive the 193 with maybe freight wagons. It's one of my favorite locomotives, and I will keep trying to "beat the whistle problem".

Make sure to:

1. start pressing the "P" key when the "P" sign (or tunnel entrance) is pretty close to your train – maybe 1 second before you pass it
2. keep pressing the "P" key while moving past the "P" sign (or tunnel entrance)
3. only release the "P" key when you are sure that your locomotive has passed the "P" sign (or tunnel entrance). At least 2 seconds, or more if you're moving at a slow speed.

I used to have the same problem, but this usually works for me.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is how engineers are supposed to handle the situation in real life. My instinct would be to "whistle" a bit earlier, but Zusi doesn't appreciate that.

Flo Zille hat geschrieben: ↑15.02.2024 07:54:41Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is how engineers are supposed to handle the situation in real life. My instinct would be to "whistle" a bit earlier, but Zusi doesn't appreciate that.

I can't speak for Germany, but here in the UK drivers have to whistle at the whistle sign, not before. That's because the signs are placed to give the optimal warning time, and also to be properly audible to people using the crossing.

raretrack hat geschrieben: ↑16.02.2024 19:59:57

Flo Zille hat geschrieben: ↑15.02.2024 07:54:41Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is how engineers are supposed to handle the situation in real life. My instinct would be to "whistle" a bit earlier, but Zusi doesn't appreciate that.

I can't speak for Germany, but here in the UK drivers have to whistle at the whistle sign, not before. That's because the signs are placed to give the optimal warning time, and also to be properly audible to people using the crossing.

Hi raretrack thanks for turning in! I guess that in the uk you have whistle posts("W"sign i think.)and me myself sure don't know the rules there(except when i am playing run8),but now after the other users that gave me here tips i rarely get "failed to operate whistle" or should i say that i am improving in the way coresponding with how zusi 3 works.