Doors not released penalty

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Ben Cruachan
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Registriert: 07.01.2020 11:17:57

Doors not released penalty

#1 Beitrag von Ben Cruachan »

After purchasing the full version am enjoying it thoroughly. Am getting a penalty in the end evaluation though for not releasing the doors when driving the Class 428 Flirt unit. Unsure what I'm doing wrong. Am trying to figure out what type of doors this train has. Would anyone be able to assist?

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F. Schn.
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Registriert: 24.10.2011 18:58:26

Re: Doors not released penalty

#2 Beitrag von F. Schn. »

A short time ago the doors had to be released while the train was still running, for example at 30 km/h. Aditional mechanical stuff prevented the doors from be further opened. This rule was applied beyond a unknown date far after 2003. This rule is implemented in Zusi.

Some years ago a number of organisations changed the rules that the doors have to be released not before the train stopped to get the passangers annoyed. This changed rule can currently not be followed in Zusi yet. A feature wish is opened to support this in the future.
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oberstrom (Markus)
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Re: Doors not released penalty

#3 Beitrag von oberstrom (Markus) »

Alwin Meschede hat geschrieben:Die jetzige Lösung ist sehr einfach zu programmieren: "Wenn Geschwindigkeit 0 km/h erreicht und Bahnsteig mit Planhalt -> einmalig prüfen ob Türen freigegeben wurden -> wenn nicht: Minuspunkte eintragen". Sobald man da jetzt ein paar Sekunden Toleranz gewähren will, wird aus dieser sehr einfachen Lösung ein komplexer Apparat. Dann muss nämlich erstmal gespeichert werden, wann der Halt erfolgt war. Und die Frage "sind die Türen freigegeben worden?" muss der Simulator sich dann auf Wiedervorlage legen, bis die Toleranz-Zeit abgelaufen ist.
The current solution is very easy to program: "If velocity of 0 km/h is reached and there is a platform with planned train stop -> check once whether doors are released -> if not: enter negative points". As soon as you want to grant a few seconds of tolerance, the easy solution changes into a complex affair. Then it must be saved the time in which the stop was made. The question "have the doors been released?" has to be put on resubmission until the tolerance time has expired.

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F. Schn.
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Re: Doors not released penalty

#4 Beitrag von F. Schn. »

Remark: The feature wish is here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=15504" target="_blank A further discussion is here: viewtopic.php?p=300138#p300138" target="_blank (Both German.) I'm still not happy with the referenced discussion because discussion participants did act as if the time period before and beyond 2003 did not exist - which is an alternative fact. So no, it is not only an effort topic but also okay until some years ago.
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