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 Betreff des Beitrags: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 31.07.2020 15:53:31 
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Could someone please advise how to properly close and open the doors within the BR146.3 cab? It's the 7:30 service from Koeln in the K-D 0-8 timetable. I read the proper section in the manual and watched some youtube videos, the thing is that it's not behaving the same way for me in the sim as in the videos.

Per what I figured out:
To open - when below 20kph you unlock the door by moving the cab knob in the direction of the side where people will be boarding (Home, Ins). Then, when you stop, you open the door by hitting the trigger in the bottom right corner (T).
To close - you move the knob in the upper direction. In the videos I see that the door light on the desk then starts blinking and then it's stable. For me it only gets stable as soon as I move the knob upwards.

Consequently I'm getting "Forgot to lock/unlock the door" error in the final evaluation.

Any advice is much appreciated, thanks a lot!


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 31.07.2020 16:31:48 
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In timetables before ~~2010(?) you must press T short before you stop (after the beep). The behaviour after 2010 is not implemented at the moment so you must behave like before 2010 yet.

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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 31.07.2020 16:52:58 
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Zusi will only accept the doors as open if you press "T" before you stop (below 3 kph, after the beep or the "Türfreigabe"-voice depending on the cab).
That is not the proper way as you mustn't open the doors before you have completely stopped.
If you press T after you stopped, which is the proper way, Zusi can't determine that you have opened the doors properly (I have forgotten why but there is a reason it doesn't work this way). And as the doors aren't officially open in this case, they close as soon as you turn back the knob.


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 31.07.2020 16:58:29 
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snookerfan hat geschrieben:
That is not the proper way as you mustn't open the doors before you have completely stopped.
I do not like it if you omit the other half of the truth and make a half lie. It was the correct behaviour untill about 2010. And it's up to the railway companies, so I don't know if there is still one, where it's correct this way.

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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 31.07.2020 18:34:39 
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F. Schn. hat geschrieben:
snookerfan hat geschrieben:
That is not the proper way as you mustn't open the doors before you have completely stopped.
I do not like it if you omit the other half of the truth and make a half lie. It was the correct behaviour untill about 2010. And it's up to the railway companies, so I don't know if there is still one, where it's correct this way.

Ok. Thanks for clarifying!


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 01.08.2020 21:00:36 
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Thanks a lot for your replies! However, it's still not clear for me how do I properly unlock and open the doors? Do I just press T shortly before the stop and that's it? No Home or Insert?

Pressing T before the stop is what I am doing with BR 146.0; 146.3 apparently has a different door handling system, are you sure about what you're saying above, guys? With 146.0 I'm getting the white-green circle when people have finished boarding, with 146.3 there is no such thing.

I just now tried to press T shorly before stopping and then pressed Home (the platform was ont he right). This resulted in the red man icon in the top left corner never to disappear and I was stuck at the station.

If it is not too much to ask, could someone please describe step by step what to do with the doors as one approaches and then departs from a station?

Many thanks!

EDIT: OK, I seem to have figured it out:

1/ you unlock using the knob on the left while still approaching the station. (Home/Insert on the keyboard)
2/ then press T when you hear the beep (as you were saying) - this is when your speed is below 3kph but before you stop.
3/ When the red man icon disappears (people stop boarding) you close and lock the doors by using the knob on the left again and placing it in the upward direction.

Thanks a lot again for all the help!


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 01.08.2020 21:51:20 
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The window with the timetable (train data) has a second page "data"... there you can see which door system your train has.

Here's what you have to do in those cases:

---: nothing*
TB0: press T (or the physical TB0 switch in your cab) shortly before stop*
TAV: select the side on which doors shall open (either by knob or by keyboard) and then press T (or the physical TB0 switch in your cab) shortly before stop

note that this only applies if you are in a locomotive or a driving trailer as the door operation for multiple units can differ from model to model

*in these cases there is a conductor present who will close the doors and is responsible for giving you the departure signal:
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in TAV case you yourself are responsible for closing the doors an determining when you can drive off again


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: BR146.3 Door Closing and Opening
BeitragVerfasst: 02.08.2020 09:28:29 
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Thanks a lot, that explains it all. I know the manual is describing this, but I still was not sure what to do exactly when the TAV system was used... including checking that I am actually on TAV... Thanks again, I'm driving with no door control errors now!


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