Thank You for the Tutorial

[Vern]

Just a quick note to thank those who translated the Help Pages and the Route Building tutorial. I am now slowly working through this and starting to achieve an understanding of how the editor works. So far up to installing crossovers and the first signals. That doesn't mean to say a new route will appear by this time next week but it's (perhaps) not as hard as it looks!

The MSTS scene is getting very stale at present, switching to Zusi for a while seems just the ticket to try something new. I actually find driving in MSTS quite boring now, but that's not the case in Zusi. If only we had some UK colour light and semaphore signals!

[Max Senft]

Hi Vern!

If only we had some UK colour light and semaphore signals!

I'm not quite sure but I think Oli(ver Lamm) is building those due to his UK project? Maybe he stumbles across this thread and answers by himself.

Bye
Max Senft

[Roland Ziegler]

Well, he won't need "real" colour light signals for Metrolink, that much is sure.

[Max Senft]

Yeah, sure, but as you know Oli, he always does some more work, and he likes to do it.

Bye
Max Senft

[Jason-M]

I would like to second what Vern has said, thanks to everyone involved that has given us a chance to join in with this excellent driving simulator.

Roland did you mention Metrolink tell us more, or maybe Oli can

[Christian Gründler]

If only we had some UK colour light and semaphore signals!

Hello Vern,

DIY . Well, for this you need the Zusi Object Editor, which is not yet available in English. But if you supply the necessary information (pictures or drawings with the exact measuments) I'm sure somebody will build these signals (maybe myself ).

Regards,
Christian

[Roland Ziegler]

@Jason-M:

I think Oli is in Germany this weekend and will probably not have much opportunity of looking at the forum.

He works for Manchester Metrolink and has started a low-priority project of modeling the phase 1 network for Zusi.

[Vern]

Building the signals probably wouldn't be a problem, but the scripting might be particularly for UK semaphores.

[Daniel Rüscher aka Merlin]

Hmm... i think scripting is not a problem

[Roland Ziegler]

Definitely. There are certainly limitations, but the Zusi approach is capable of supporting different logical signalling architectures. Basically there is no scripting. The logic is set up in signal matrices with quite some automation included. And you will be able to get plenty of help from the experts for more complex situations.

[Max Senft]

Hi!

DIY . Well, for this you need the Zusi Object Editor, which is not yet available in English.

He also could do it with a 3D modeller which has an .x export, right? And with Roland's tool, he can convert it to .ls, or did I miss a thing? *g*

Bye
Max Senft

[Christian Gründler]

There are certainly limitations

Oh Roland,

don't hide Zusi's light under a bushel - what limitations . I admit that AWS and TPWS must still be implemented (probably in Zusi 3); the same applies to RETB. But the signals - semaphore, two/three/four aspect colour light - can already today be built to Britisch standards and will work as required.

Regards,
Christian

[Christian Gründler]

He also could do it with a 3D modeller which has an .x export, right? And with Roland's tool, he can convert it to .ls, or did I miss a thing? *g*

Hi Max,

yes, this works. But it will not help, as Zusi 2 doesn't use bitmaps, so much of the original information is lost. I assume that starting from scratch with the Zusi Object editor will be easyer. Of course Zusi 3 will be able to read .x files.

Regards,
Christian

[Max Senft]

Well, I thought you can start with a third-party modeller to have a basis for Zusi 3 AND to make nice objects for Zusi 2. Maybe you even can use (almost) the same object for Zusi 2 and Zusi 3, whereby the object needs the material colors for Zusi 2 and textures for Zusi 3...

But sure, it's the creator's decision.

Bye
Max Senft

[Jason-M]

Here is some interesting information for the UK related railway-

http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/docushare/ds ... ection-161

http://www.railway-technical.com/

[Max Senft]

Hi,

the first link doesn't work, but I think you meant this page: http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/docushare/ds ... ection-161 ?!

Bye
Max Senft

[Roland Ziegler]

Excellent links, particularly the one on signalling standards. Thanks a lot, to Max as well for fixing the link.

[Oliver Lamm]

I've started on the colour signal and a basic version is already build.

I've done so far:

- 4/3/2 apsect signals (including theatre screens)
- limit of shunt

What I'm looking for is some drawings about semaphore signals and route indicators for the colour signals. Also measurements would be nice.
I've got measurements for the colour aspect signals as we use them as well.

Roland did you mention Metrolink tell us more, or maybe Oli can

I' working within the Engineering department at Metrolink doing project work.
@Jason: where are you located ?

Oli

[Jason-M]

Thanks Max pointing out that link.
This link is better-
http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/rail/document_index.html
Then you can look through all the docs.


Hello Oli,

Glad to hear from you, i think i can remember a while back reading about you working with the Metrolink.
Glad to hear you have done some signals.
I work as a relief signalman in East Sussex.
If you wait till early next week i should be able to get some drawings/measurements of signals.

[Vern]

Continuing to work through the tutorial, a couple of quick points.

I have had several module/address errors when trying to create the crossovers and junction at the branch terminus station - is that normal or a bug? Also is there any sort of "undo" function? I jumped ahead to add a platform but got it on the wrong side of the track. I see it is possible to delete track sections but I couldn't highlight the platform to select it for deletion or an undo button.